I really wish there could be official audiobooks for Greg Cox's Underworld movie novelizations.
I really wish that Greg Cox had written novelizations for Awakening and Blood Wars like he did for the first three films.
Greg Cox's writing is amazing.
This fanboy's narration has a strong accent. I wish someone else could take over the project.
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The original un-George-Lucased theatrical cut can be found on Blu-ray in Japan.
Dutch Blu-ray also has it. There's also a Spanish digibook which contains the original theatrical version.
The YouTube VOD version is the original. What's more, it's open matte. :)
I agree. I love the original flashback scene!
Maleficent30 wrote:
It’s true watching it now on Netflix
It’s true watching it now on Netflix
Haha, I couldn't wait, so I bought the movie on 4K. The 4K version features the re-edited version. Cheers!
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I hope there is a 6th movie/ TV series following Eve as the protagonist as she searches for Michael.
I've recently rewatched Blood Wars. Story wise, the film really seems to be the last one in the series. As I watched Selene meditating on the frozen lake, reunited with her daughter, I felt a sense of closure for our favorite Death Dealer. "There is no beginning. There is no end. There is only becoming." These words are from someone who has been through life and death, lost her loved ones, lived through a millenium in vengeance, and finally found some peace and spirituality. A beautiful yet bittersweet ending to the story of a warrior. Bitter, because of the loss of Michael. Sweet, because of her reunion with Eve, and because now Selene is powerful enough to protect her and Michael's daughter.
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Have you seen Kate’s new TV series, The Widow? The protagonist Georgia keeps reminding me of Selene. Georgia walks like a badass, just like Selene. >_<||| Gosh I miss Underworld.
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Nuke97 wrote: Just made a petition for Sony to make Underworld 6! Guys I need your help, please support it! https://www.change.org/p/sony-let-s-get-sony-attention-to-make-underworld-6-a-direct-sequel-for-underworld-blood-wars?recruiter=495480262&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition
Recently did an Underworld marathon (again). The cliffhanger of Awakening seemed really promising, making me wonder what could have been if Blood Wars had been about Selene, Eve, and Michael striking out as the family of the invincible trio. Now I can’t watch Blood Wars without thinking, “Why! Michael, why!” and mentally yelling at the filmmakers, “Bullshit!”
If Underworld 6 never gets made and Michael never returns... well... [insert angry comments of frustration and despair here]. >_<|||
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Hulk10 wrote:
DdandingD1 wrote: I believe that the director can decide the style and tone of a movie, but the plot is decided by the screenwriter.
I believe it was a collective decision to off Michael. The director, the producers, the screenwriters... they were all part of the “crime”. XD
I agree it was likely a collective decision but its not funny.
I know! I should have used the facepalm emoji with sad tears! Sigh! No words or emoji symbols can express how fans feel about Michael.
It’s been 2 years since the release of Blood Wars, and we are still here, lamenting the loss of a beloved character. That’s the power of Michael’s character. He’s so well established in the original film and in Evolution.
?x a million x a trillion...
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I believe that the director can decide the style and tone of a movie, but the plot is decided by the screenwriter.
I believe it was a collective decision to off Michael. The director, the producers, the screenwriters... they were all part of the “crime”. XD
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American Horror Story is fantastic. I recommend. Some dark themes are explored in the show.
Penny Dreadful is not only dark but also poetic. Recommend!
Outlander. Tobias Menzies is an amazing actor.
True Blood. 7 seasons, 7 years. 2008-2014. Gosh, I really miss those good old days of watching the show.
All of the shows mentioned above are for adults. They can get pretty dark. Underworld fans should have no problem with them. ?
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Aggression25 wrote: Even wishful thinking is still better than not thinking at all about the future series.
This is a golden age for television, a great time to be a fan of TV rather than movies.
Following a movie franchise is so tough. ? It takes forever for the next Underworld movie to come out. The wait for Underworld 5, 2012 to 2016, gosh, those years were torturous.
For a TV show the interval between seasons is only 1 year. I’m happy and full of hope for the future of Underworld. C’mon, the concept of Vampires VS Werewolves is so intriguing.
I’ve been doing Underworld marathons lately, well, actually every week, for the past few years, and I sense great potential in the character of Eve.
Build a series about Eve, get Kate to do a cameo, and bring back Scott as Michael Corvin, and I’ll be the happiest mortal on earth!
PS: If Kate doesn’t return, fear not. CG animation movies don’t sound like a bad idea! Capcom CG movies Resident Evil Degeneration and Damnation are great examples. It would be great if Kate could lend her voice to a never aging forever beautiful CG Selene. I would slobber at her just like I slobber every time Ada Wong shows up in Damnation.
SONY has to be able to figure something out, right? I’m aware of the anime, Underworld: Endless War. But c’mon! CG animation on the level of Resident Evil CG films would definitely bring out something truly great for Underworld.
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Let’s bombard Len with messages of love and hope for the upcoming Underworld TV series. Maybe that will speed things up. XD
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Now that Len Wiseman is spearheading the TV show, I believe the franchise will continue to be amazing. Len is the father of Underworld. Of course he is the greatest.
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Quote: To me Len Wiseman is the strongest of all the directors in this franchise. Ana Forester is the the weakest of all the directors. Who do you think should direct the next movie? Len Wiseman again or someone other than Ana Forestor? (she is a terrible director) Who do want to be the lead? Selene again? EVE? Or Michael Corvin? For me I choose Len Wiseman and Michael Corvin.
Seen the TV series Outlander? Anna did some amazing stuff in season 1. She’s a terrific director.
I would love to get my hands on a copy of the script for Underworld 5 before making snap judgements. I think the issue lies in the script. Perhaps Anna and Kate did their best to elevate the script.
I wonder how film production works. A lot of decision making has to go through the producers, doesn’t it? Perhaps it was a group decision to kill off Michael, which means, as filmmakers they all suck (pun intended). XD
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Emiya kirei wrote:
Psi-ragnarok wrote:
Emiya kirei wrote:
DdandingD1 wrote: It’s unfortunate that Anna isn’t a big fan of Awakening, saying that it is more interesting to take the story back to the world of Vampires and Lycans, not take it into our world, the world of humans.
But I’m a big fan of Awakening. ?
IKR. Awakening opens to lots of potential storylines. It has detective, thriller/conspiracy vibes, which is more interesting. I'd like for Underworld to develop more than just typical Vampire movies since humanity knowing about Vampires & Lycans. That's why MCU movies are successful coz' if its progressive, contemporary and relatable storylines. That's what Underworld writers should be aspired to. If not to the MCU level, at least it's John Wick level.
I never really watched the John Wick films, are they considered good?
Yes and DOUBLE YES. These videos should've sufficed: https://youtu.be/GPTQlfPQo6o https://youtu.be/1mBI_9hTUdY
Thank you so much for your recommendation, my fellow vampire/lycan/hybrid brethren!
I’ve just finished watching John Wick 1-2. Next year when John Wick 3 premières I will definitely check it out in the cinema!
The theme song for John Wick 2, Plastic Heart, is so kickass.
After I finished watching the John Wick movies, two ideas occurred to me.
1. The vampire coven sending out their top assassins to hunt down Selene for killing Elder Viktor would be a great Underworld movie that we never got to see.
2. Who would win, Keanu Reeves’ John Wick VS Angelina Jolie’s Salt? They’re both badass assassins. I’d love a John Wick VS Salt movie, a movie the world would never get to see. ?
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Vampire The Masquerade V5 the tabletop role playing game is coming this month. I’m still thinking whether I should buy it. I’ve only played the PC game Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines. Its universe, called the World of Darkness (WOD), is so intriguing!
In the game, there are vampire clans, each clan possessing unique attributes and powers, Malkavian, Ventrue, Tremere, Toreador...
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I’ve been thinking, what if Underworld and the WOD collide? Which clan would Selene belong to? Brujah?
Viktor might be Ventrue. Ventrue is a royal and regal clan, and Viktor is a powerful and cunning vampire lord. He definitely has the vibe of a monarch.
Markus? I’m thinking of Gangrel, animalistic shapeshifters, ferocious, independent.
Amelia? Definitely Toreador! She’s so mesmerising!
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It’s unfortunate that Anna isn’t a big fan of Awakening, saying that it is more interesting to take the story back to the world of Vampires and Lycans, not take it into our world, the world of humans.
But I’m a big fan of Awakening. ?
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Len is on Instagram. I replied to one of his posts about Underworld, and he clicked ❤️.
Let’s chat with him on social media. Maybe the Underworld creator will hear us.
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Emiya kirei wrote:
DdandingD1 wrote:
Part 3 will answer that. But to make it easier, Vicky tried to track down Selene and attempted to contact her regarding the threat he's facing and her key role in it. All to no avail.That’s really smart, getting Selene to kill all the criminals for him!
Emiya kirei wrote:
DdandingD1 wrote: Uh... Vicky could’ve told Selene the truth. Was violence really necessary? ?
Part 3 will answer that. But to make it easier, Vicky tried to track down Selene and attempted to contact her regarding the threat he's facing and her key role in it. All to no avail.
And while handling that threat, he also needed to destroy the criminal group without getting everything traced back to him, so he baited her with Michael and all the mind games just to get her do the job.
Anything else you're unclear about?
Here comes part 3, which is divided into part 3A & 3B, with 3B as the conclusion of this story.
Part 3A takes place after part 1, in which Selene's confusion over Vicky's relationship with still-living & breathing Michael. And furthermore, Detective Sebastian's coming in too. All of exposition from part 2 was delivered by both Michael & Vicky to Selene with Detective Sebastian already figured that out on his own, as Vicky got most of his intel from him. The dead "Michael" was actually a clone, created by the same threat plaguing this story. Furthermore, Vicky even gave a box containing files & a laptop containing everything about him, for all 3 of them to read through in their own time. Sort of putting all cards on the table, nuturing trust and all before the coming storm. The actual threat was there's a group of humanity consisting of powerful people & corporation who believe that Vampires & Lycans are something akin to the "Second Coming". This group, known as the Apostles, was the brains behind Antigen, so however marginal, it's also responsible for Marius and his Lycan packs. The Apostles gained everything from Antigen and they conducted their own experimentations involving mutation of the strain from both Vampires and Lycans to create another version of Corvinus strain, except it's targetted specifically to destroy both races and bring about humanity's "evolution". And as a back up in case of failures, they created clones of both Michael & Selene as they both are the carriers of original Corvinus strain, (therefore the most potent) serving as a "death squad" to exterminate both races. Antigen's fall just reinforced their already "power-in-secrecy" conditions, and Marius' connection with criminal underworld are one of their backbones without him even realizing it at all that he's walking dead meat at all.
The Apostles are also well-connected with various underworld network (and even the freaking CIA) and also behind most, if not all, heinous crimes such as human trafficking, assasination, extortion, narcotics, etc. This is how they're able to get endless supply of living, human subjects. And Vicky was one of those subjects from the very first experimentation, created by Antigen with the intention of artificially creating an army of Hybrids but instead becoming something else entirely than what they predicted and he was the only survivor. His creation essentially gave another idea for the Apostles to more experimentations and the clones' creation. His role as "the Executor" was very useful for both the Apostles' & CIA's demands, be it maintaining the secrecy, and other heinous things. In short, humanity's silence is just another ticking time bomb (or rather biological) and it's gonna tip the worldly balance scale massively. It's something Vicky realized a little too late, thanks to Antigen's fall too.
This is why Vicky sought out both Selene and Michael, as he believes that their genetic materials hold the key to counteract this biological outbreak and even "disable" the clones' generation. Michael's medical experties, Selene's guns-ablazing ruthlessness, Vicky's spycraft/black ops experience and Detective Sebastian's intel are the tools to eliminate this threat, if not crippling it momentarily. And despite the initial hostility, including Selene's getting physically restrained in armbar & headlock by Vicky, the situation's resolved satisfactorily on all 4 characters now.
After the long discussion, all three of them read through the box Vicky gave them while he spent his time alone training rigorously. While doing so, Michael & Selene catch up with whatever's happened, including their daughter, with Detective Sebastian head off to resume his duty so as to avoid any speculations from his superiors back at the police department and prefering to be on-the-need-to-know-basis. Even when finished, Vicky's still nowhere to be around them. Michael's assured Selene that training himself is what's he's been doing most of the day if not getting out there fighting the Apostles or infiltrate/fake running criminal group. Living for some time with him has Michael figuring out that somewhere in Vicky's mind, it's regret and hatred towards Antigen, Marius and even the CIA, as they're what made Vicky to be whatever he is today, a fact that he both resented, yet respected all too well to date. Vicky's daily training regiment not only to keep his mental & physical performance at his peak, it also distracts him from the fact that he's at fault for whatever the shitstorm mentioned earlier.
Even Selene felt the same pity, something that opens up a new point of view that it's not just about her immortal life, the coven, the Vampire-Lycan war, etc. A new lesson embedded in her and admittedly, she's got knocked up some sense into her to realize that fact. Now, that newfound responsibility fuels her determination to better use her own immortal life and her influence as the current Vampire Elder to lead her coven towards better, more selfless future.
Feedback, please?
Finally got a chance to come back to the forum! ?? A stunning read. Creating a new type of Corvinus strain to wipe out both species is such an interesting idea! Yes, only Selene, Michael, and Eve’s blood can help fight Corvinus virus 2.0.
You should try and get on the team of writers for the TV series.
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Emiya kirei wrote:
DdandingD1 wrote: Uh... Vicky could’ve told Selene the truth. Was violence really necessary? ?
Part 3 will answer that. But to make it easier, Vicky tried to track down Selene and attempted to contact her regarding the threat he's facing and her key role in it. All to no avail.
And while handling that threat, he also needed to destroy the criminal group without getting everything traced back to him, so he baited her with Michael and all the mind games just to get her do the job.
Anything else you're unclear about?
That’s really smart, getting Selene to kill all the criminals for him!
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