Before the Purges, could there have been other Vampire Councils around the world, maybe more than one in the same continent like the Eastern Coven, or did the Vampire Council (the one from the first movie that were killed) the only ones. The Eastern Coven's Council could've formed after the Purges and maybe even after the Council members were killed.
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Never said he's the first Immortal, just the first one we've heard about.
I know that Marcus and William created their respective Immortal lines (Vampire and Werewolf) in the 5th century, but is it possible that an earlier race of Immortals (either or both) secretly existed much earlier than that without anyone knowing about or possibly not touched on in the movies or books?
Blood Enemy is a non-canon novel, but definitely not fanfiction. The fanfiction I recommended were just examples of what I was saying. Never said anything about adding it to the wiki.
Are you referring to Eve? If you are, then I think she’s a Vampire-Lycan Hybrid. Her mother Selene is a vampire and her father is predominantly a Lycan. Michael is a Lycan-Vampire Hybrid so I don’t know if that plays a part in it too. I don’t know if she would be a Neutral Hybrid though since it wasn’t touched on it enough to say for certain and the unborn child died when Sonja was executed. Wasn’t Eve called a tri-blood in the films? I’m not entirely certain, I could be wrong.
Now that you mention it, it doesn't make sense for vampires like Selene and David to be considered hybrids. Hybrids are the offspring of a union with other species like Lycans and maybe humans. Vampires with the Corvus Strain are vampires with new and heightened abilities.
Unless the author says that the David and Thomas are the ones from Evolution and Blood Wars, they don't count.
^^I did. Now that you've mentioned it, I did notice they included David and Thomas in the fanfic. It's possible that they just used their names not the actual characters themselves. The names David and Thomas are pretty common names, so it may not be David and Thomas, but in fact two separate people.
How so? When I read it, I didn't notice that, but maybe I missed something.
Actually there are two. I'll give you the links so you don't have to go looking around for them.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/2911058/1/Amelia-s-journey
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3023440/1/A-Dark-Renaissance
Is it possible that Selene wasn't the very first Vampire-Corvinus Strain Hybrid and was merely the first known in the series/Underworld universe? I don’t remember Alexander ever saying that she was the very first and we don’t know if Alexander gave his blood to other vampires, plus a vampire could’ve found it and/or fed from him, so it could very well be possible Selene wasn’t the first and there are others out there.
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Even if three is a lucky number, it hardly matters that much when choosing Elders. They could decide to start a new tradition of five Elders instead of three and maybe two maybe more more vampires could be just as qualified to be Elders as the others, but that’s just me.
Sounds pretty interesting? Underworld: Origins or something along like that?
I personally think that if there are any more Underworld films or the TV series should be about other parts of the world other than Eastern Europe. It has been practically been done to death and it would be really cool to see other vampires in different parts of the world. I personally like the idea of it being set in America and being able to see the New World/American Coven and what it is like. I'm American and am fascinated to learn more about the vampires and the Coven that would be in my country if all of this was real. Although the Western Coven (I think was/possibly is located in England)/British Coven would be really cool too. It would either be a historical film/set in the past (TV series), before and during the Council and Amelia's deaths, or after the Purges and we see that it survived the Purges (not sure if they did, but in my head and idea they did). There is a fanfiction I read centering around Amelia and the New World Coven I kinda would like to see as a film, but with some differences of course. It could also center around Amelia's reign as Elder. We've seen Viktor's reign in the first and second films, but we hardly know anything about Amelia's.
Okay since Dragonfly wasn't helpful at all, can literally anyone else can help me out here, Actual blood relatives of the Elders could end up becoming Elders themselves like Viktor tried to do with his daughter, Sonja. How would the new Elder fit into the rule of the other Elders and could be a number limit to how many could be Elders if there are multiple children?
Andreas was banished because Viktor claimed he was the first Elder I believe, but he was still an Elder. Viktor was one of three Elders including Marcus and Amelia. Marcus lied to Viktor because that was his insurance. He was afraid and knew that if Viktor, Amelia and the other vampires didn’t depend on him living then they would kill him. But regardless of all that, Viktor was still an Elder. Kraven being Viktor’s lackey and being rewarded as his second-in-command has absolutely nothing to do with this conversation. Remember that for next time. You have to remember when and where to mention certain facts in different conversations. Irrelevant facts have no place here or any other discussion. For future reference, Viktor is spelled with a k not a c.
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What on earth are you talking about? Of course Viktor is an Elder. Viktor was an Elder for I think 14 centuries or something. Marcus, Viktor and Amelia were all Elders regardless of any lying or whatever else you might be thinking. He was upgraded to an Elder. What exactly do you mean that he lied himself for the position? He was a warlord then he was turned into a vampire and became the first Vampire turned by Marcus and the second Elder. What you are saying makes no sense whatsoever.
Marcus is an Elder, but it was never stated William was one. Marcus is an Elder not just because he is the first vampire. Viktor, Amelia, Selene, David and Lena are Elders too. Vampire Elders is a group of vampires not just Marcus. I still think we’re getting sidetracked and distracted by other things.
Alexander is the first Immortal and I suppose it says he's the Founding Father, but he's not a vampire which means any talk about vampires such as the Elders like here and such means he is irrelevant and has no place here. The same applies to Lycans and werewolves too.
Alexander is not an Elder so they don't count except for Eve since she's the daughter of Selene. Alexander doesn't count here and is irrelevant to this conversation. As I said before, when I was blood relatives I meant genetic like actual families not just being sired by another vampire/an Elder and certainly not drinking Alexander's blood. I'm talking about children of the Elders like Sonja and David who are the children of Viktor and Amelia respectively. If children of the Elders became full-fledged Elders not just Highborns how would they fit into how the Elders rule the Vampire world. If there multiple children (3+ children), could they essentially become Elders themselves or would there be a number limit? Eve and Michael aren't Elders so they don't count, so please do not mention them on here ever again.